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@Anonymous: Of course you do, everyone on the internet does. On top of your wonderful education in dialects/accents, you showed you knew little about the immigration of northern europeans, more specifically the scottish/irish, into the Americas. Appalachian English & Ozark English are both examples of Scottish English twisted into an American form, sounding remarkably similar to the way she spoke. But alas, I know, youtube showed you all the southern dialects that exist and the variations that get created by children who grow up with parents who both speak differently.
Here's an interesting History lesson for you, I do hope you won't hold it against Billy Ray Cyrus for not singing Achy Breaky Heart.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=2PJ7qqnkVaI
As said before, yep I know the actress isn't American. The accent plus word choice reminded me of a particular group of Americans before it reminded me of a pure Scottish person. After all, she isn't written to be Scottish. More so a ... Mountain Woman. :D -
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@noquierouser: Not quite sure what male wouldn't find this attractive, but to each their own.
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@AvengerOfBoredom: >you showed you knew little about the immigration of northern europeans, more specifically the scottish/irish, into the Americas
Why should I have mentioned it if she uses Northern English, not Scottish or Irish? It's simply irrelevant.
>Appalachian English & Ozark English are both examples of Scottish English twisted into an American form, sounding remarkably similar to the way she spoke.
But, again, she doesn't sound Scottish in the role. Actually, even in everyday life, living in London now, she has adopted some sort of Estuary sounding accent. So her Scottish is nowhere to be heard on the show. You are just bad at accents is all.
>Here's an interesting History lesson for you
>American documentary
Oh, wow. Anyway, again. unsurprisingly, none of people in that film speak anything like people in Northern England.
>The accent plus word choice
Now it's word choice, too. And what words caught your attention then?
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@Anonymous: Nope, since not all the Northerners spoke like her. In fact if you listen to the interaction between her and Bones, they both speak differently.
The film was merely an education on the immigration of the Scotts into America. Since you love youtube, you could find the documentary where they speak to the ole timers who speak full fledged appalachian english. Their children on the other hand are becoming educated and are losing parts. I'm not saying there aren't other scottish accents in the show. I'm merely pointing out ygrittes reminded me much of females I've met in the south. To toss this one at you, other people have said she talked like "a flippin' hick". But I know, you need the day long argument that your opinion is she didn't remind you of a hick, so shouldn't remind others of a hick. -
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@AvengerOfBoredom: >Bones
Who is a wildling. Maybe I confused you a bit, but we don't call Scottish Northerners, for example. We call that people living in Northern England. I applied the same term for the people South of the Wall in the region known as the North.
>The film was merely an education on the immigration of the Scotts into America.
Which is irrelevant. Thank you.
>To toss this one at you, other people have said she talked like "a flippin' hick".
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@Anonymous: Perhaps you should go back and read some of original posts, you seem to forgot yourself. : winks :
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@AvengerOfBoredom: What are you talking about? Forgot what?
Here's your original post:
>She's very attractive, too many people complained she's too pretty for the role. Redheads with a southernish dialect. Mmm.
>with a southernish dialect
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@Anonymous: "to be of any authority"
Oh, no see I'm not the one claiming to have gone to school for being an authority on dialect.
I merely said that she sounds like people in America who have similar dialects/accents. I also was kind enough to give references.
It's not my fault you can't get over it.
So perhaps you should read everything you've posted and see where your own confusion has come into play.
I'm obviously no authority, after all I didn't go to college to decipher peoples speech. Somewhere in this it has been added that someone who goes to school is instantly an authority or expert on the subject. Funny that, I'll have to merely shrug and offer a bit of sorrow, for I disagree.
I cannot apologize that you don't share the ear for noticing the similarities between our beloved "Hill Billies" and the actresses lines in the show.
That is Your opinion after all. And we all know how these conversations tend to go, your opinion must be the law of the land. Anyone else is some word used in hopes to insult someone.
( I'll ignore your sad attempt with "Northern English dialects or the Southern American ones", since obviously not everyone in the world is familiar with both. : winks : ) -
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@Anonymous: Well, obviously we care. Now why would you be so rude as to call people nobodies while posting as anonymous?
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@Anonymous: Well, obviously we care. Didn't I just post that same line? Of course it's bullshit, I've already said it's bullshittery. Now let's ignore that repetition for the time.
Instead let us focus on your little quip about "fagging".
Why do you assume homosexuality is a bad thing?
Some homosexuals do not actively breed, this helps the population.
Some homosexuals adopt unwanted children & animals, providing them with love no one else was willing to give them.
Some homosexuals have fought for your rights and die for you to enjoy sitting online at home playing on Canv.as.
So honestly you shouldn't act as if homosexuality is such a horrible thing, it's not an insult to me. I am not homosexual, but I have nothing against homosexuals.
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@AvengerOfBoredom: > I also was kind enough to give references.
You reference being "some Northerners settled there centuries ago, but Scottish and Irish were the dialect that actually had some impact"? Are having a laugh?
>I cannot apologize that you don't share the ear for noticing the similarities between our beloved "Hill Billies" and the actresses lines in the show.
Again, no one familiar with Northern English dialects would notice the similarity. Face it, you are an American, you are bad at British accents. I've already mentioned, how some people took Wheatley for Irish. Why? They weren't familiar with Bristle, that is why. So I rightfully assume you were not exposed to any Northern English before that show. Hence your confusion. There-there, Americans are supposed to be less educated and ignorant towards other cultures, so there is nothing to be ashamed of. Anyway, you were saying that Sean Bean sounds like an Appalachian to you, right? -
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@AvengerOfBoredom: Well, you are, aren't you. A Dane does a better job at the British than an American in the show.
>Actually, few posts ago I stated the others don't sound like Ygritte.
You only mentioned Bones, who is not from the North, he is a wildling. And Ygritte's accent is based on the Lancashire one, which is Sean Bean's natural accent. Their accents are almost identical. And, again, almost everyone from the North have some kind of Northern accent. Some use their natural ones, some adopt it, but it is painfully obvious that any Northern English accent is more similar to another Northern English accent than to any Southern American. -
@Anonymous: : rests cheek in palm and pokes thumb at youtube : Since you're such a frequent user. Perhaps you should play a clip of Eddard Stark and a clip of Ygritte and compare how in the show they sound nothing alike.
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@AvengerOfBoredom: They use the same vowels and the same consonants in the same positions, they have the same intonations, most mergers are intact. Of course, they have different voice pitch due to one of them being a female and the other being a male. And their wording is a tad different due to one of them being a wildling and the other being an aristocrat. If you really think that their accents are nothing, just point out several differences.
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@AvengerOfBoredom: >Snow
And now I must rewatch the whole fist series to find Eddard saying 'snow'? Thanks, but no, thanks. I believe, you've found the word somewhere already, so it would be nice of you to provide a link or the respective time in an episode. Anyway. What's the difference in your opinion? You can't just throw a random word without explaining why it's different. -
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@Anonymous: Quit trying so hard to be funny, brah.
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@alexchuck: She's not.
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