@runway: I miss you already.

@runway: I don't remember much of your work nor do you seem to have a bit of a presence like a gearmonde or a noko would, but I do agree with you about remixing no longer being as fun. I can still do things basically, but it's a bit of a pain.

I like most of the changes, but not so much what they've done with the text tool.
I know they'll only make everything better eventually. We just have to be patient.
I will never leave Canvas. <3

@Jiakko: >gearmonde or a noko
Right. What can we do to make *them* leave?

@Jiakko: Yay Jiakko's back!

@Anonymous: I think I already put my own case well enough in a previous thread, but the new tool sits somewhere between "just the same tools as before but slower/harder to use" and "actually fewer tools than before and some of them are now lower quality"

Drawing tools: all fine, but it now takes two clicks to move between them. The clone tool resetting issue has been fixed, but because of having to open the menu every time, it actually makes no practical difference. Addition of line tool is nice, but apparently this was always possible using a (secret :p) key combination, there's no spline, and shapes are always fully filled (ie no outline option). And the colour picker suffers just the same, with the additional problem of no longer having custom palette entries.

Images/stickers: no issues. It's supposedly better than it was before but I'm really not feeling any improvement. Not worse, though.

Text: Oh dear god what HAVE you done. This was already in need of being thrown in the bin and done over completely, but this version is actually worse.

Filters: addition of new preset ones is nice, but that could have easily been done by adding additional entries to the examples list. Now no way to make your own, and interesting, tweakable stuff like the Warhol preset has gone. They really are the equivalent of what you would get on a phone camera app (Instagram etc), just with repeatability.

Plus the layering paradigm is all kinds of fucked up.

It's still usable for some basic things, and will be fun until the novelty of multi-stacking stamps/solarise/8bit onto a remix wears off, but at the end of the day it's still even more mickey mouse than it already was :-/

I'm not expecting Photoshop or anything, but possibly it could take the functionality of at least MS Paint (a couple-hundred-kb program that's been around almost totally unchanged for over 20 years), add the stamps, filters etc on top, & retain the better customisability …

Just download gimp. Sheesh. It's like you want folks to just hold your hand and walk you into Mordor with a fucking map. This ain't World of Warcraft.

@AvengerOfBoredom: That's. Kind. Of. Missing. The. Fucking. Point. Of. The. Site.

@runway: Nothing of value was lost.

@AvengerOfBoredom: The fun thing about Canvas is (was) the inline editor - the sense of mastering it to do things "the hard way", rather than in Photoshop. I hate seeing a good remix that has no slider.

@OliveOodle: *fap fap fap*

@Anonymous: uh-huh, and as a good beta tester, i'm offering constructive feedback. not just going along with it and not offering any opinion, nor aimlessly trolling and criticising for the hell of it. instead, putting forth my opinion on what works, what doesn't, what's improved, what needs improvement, what's got worse, and what could be done to make the final form better.

that's how Beta testing is supposed to work isn't it?

of course the language is a bit spiky... if you dislike that, I apologise. blame it on being a bit of a hang-over from the chans (i left them, then rediscovered this place, and it brought out the sailor in me), and having not had my coffee at that point. besides, welcome to the motherfucking internet. you want jerkwads? we got 'em.

@Anonymous: additional points of note:

The line tool is only one pixel wide. forever.

Squares draw from the top-left edge, but Circles draw from the centre?!?! augh.

@Anonymous: Line tool isn't 1 pixel wide.
Use any brush and hold shit.