> "Most free country on earth"
> Slavery in it's past
> As well as women's rights issues
> Government based around Christianity (pro-life, anti-gay, etc.)
> Censorship problems with internet, movies, pretty much any art-form imaginable

wat

@Anonymous: Huh? No one claimed America use to not be as "free" as it was today, but slavery is no longer legal, and women can vote. Also censorship on the internet? I've NEVER been blocked on the internet, unlike several other countries in the world. Also the Government isn't based around that, there just so happens to be a lot of people elected with those attitudes, but there are a lot that disagree.

@Anonymous: Please tell me which nation on Earth is free from sin? I remember last decade when most of Europe was upset at the US I thought about the French, the Italians and others who collaborated with the Nazis and I shook my head in disbelief.

*is going to take a guess at how many of the people in this thread that think America isn't free are also Ron Paul supporters*

@Anonymous: What does free even mean? Anarchy? Free thought?

@Anonymous: Um...I said that for people that think America is such an oppressive regime don't realize the luxury of the freedom they have to express their strong distaste for the country because it the country allows it. Try saying the same about a country overseas and not expecting to be added to a list of enemies of the state or end up with someone at your front doorstep demanding you answer some questions.

You'd be lucky if you didn't just up and vanish in most other places.

@Anonymous: Oh god don't even start. To reason with an anarchist is like smacking your head against a brick wall. Actually you'd make more progress doing the latter.

@Anonymous: >> Slavery in it's past
>Is now gone thanks to REPUBLICANS, of all people
>>As well as women's rights issues
>Women's suffrage was voted in by REPUBLICANS, of all people
>>Government based around Christianity (pro-life, anti-gay, etc.)
>implying it isn't because the majority of people in the nation are Christian, and vote for people who have similar beliefs, just as you would probably vote for an atheist (which, by the way, I am an atheist, so don't judge)
>>Censorship problems with internet, movies, pretty much any art-form imaginable
>implying Europe hasn't implemented similar legislation

@Anonymous: >using "u mad" seriously

You are the cancer killing logic

@Anonymous: But opinion is subjective. If you don't stand for something, you fall for anything. So you telling me my opinion is wrong is also, opinion. So I fail to understand the point you're making.

I'm not some narrow minded "murica fuck yeah" redneck that isn't cultured and hasn't been outside of this country. I've spent extensive amounts of time in England, Germany, Canada, Italy, France studying abroad and for leisure. I happen to understand a thing or two about how other countries report and percieve themselves as well as other countries.

It's my belief (and has always been the definition) that an opinion is a personal feeling or representation on any given subject based on FACT. To say "durrhurr americas stupid cuz it tihnks iss bettr den every1 n every1s fat n stoopid" simply because it's the "cool" thing to do, or for an American to say "durrhurr murica fuck yeah every countree iz dumb were numbr 1" without being to verbalize why, is completely assinine and idiotic.

All these kinds of conversations do is add to the fire of misinformation and general personal insecurity about one's superiority by vicariously living through the "image" of one country. Try being an individual for once, people. I mean really. I don't judge someone based on their country or their skin color, their politics or their intelligence. I treat them like a human being, like I would anyone else.

That's why I deem explaining all these things to strangers on the internet generally a waste of time. Because most of the time people are, in fact, too ignorant to even begin to understand the points being discussed of how they're being exploited by institutions with ulterior motives, keeping people in this rut of "Us vs Them" that accomplishes nothing except further division, based on petty childish nonsense.

Also tl;dr wall of text etc etc

@Anonymous: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8Kt2jHnMh0

@Anonymous: Pretty much everywhere else. Even on the muslim countries, the difference is that they have different traditions. America is a country where freedom is an illusion and the masses just do what they are told without actually thinking

@ItchyBarracuda: So essentially because you are a comfortable slave, you are not a slave?

@Anonymous: you mean he passed radical new laws due to public demand and not his own principles? Now thats what I call democracy.

@htaminkyaw: We aren't a democracy, we are a republic.

@Anonymous: Actually, the difference between a representative republic and a "Democracy" is that in a "Democracy", 51% of the population can decide to oppress and steal from the 49% and/or squander the treasury. That is why we didn't start out with a "Democracy". It's getting to be that way now, though, unfortunately.

@Anonymous: They're immune to cognitive dissonance and do not think.

@Anonymous: Typed with one hand ^^^

@Anonymous: For all intensive purposes, and so you don't stroke your e-peen over semantics/subjectivity arguments, a "true/pure" democracy is one where the DIRECT majority votes and makes a decision. The U.S., and really no standing government on the planet, does not have a pure democracy. Period.