@Anonymous: No one said the pursuit of happiness would be easy.

@Anonymous: It is when you post anonymously.

@DashDeschain: Q.E.D.

@Anonymous: I see that you're just going to start adulthood right at the top of the food chain, bypassing all those peasants.

@DashDeschain: That's what puppets like you are for.

@Anonymous: :rolleyes:

@DashDeschain: >I wonder how the previous generations managed a full day of labor without dying

A lot of them didn't manage it, which is why workplace safety laws were implemented in the first place.

Let me get this straight, are you actually arguing against initiatives like labeling combustible of flammable products, or forcing steelworkers to tie off?

@DashDeschain: Yeah, let's go back to the good old days where workers had to buy everything at the company store, 20 hour work days, unsafe working conditions (hey, I'll just hire someone else if your arms get amputated), children working rather than learning to read, etc., etc.

How is it that you managed to become an adult and not hear about the basic conditions of labor under unfettered capitalism? Now go read some books on labor history and stop being a douche.

@Meander_Thralls: You're being ignorant...IGNORANT. It's good for the economy, the business owners are the good guys. You're just a dirty socialist. SHUN THE NONBELIEVER.

As usual Canv.as goes full retard discussing anything political. Labor laws were/are 100% necessarily, I can't believe, outside of trolls, and willfully ignorant teenagers who has never worked a day in their lives, anyone would suggest otherwise.

If you like child labor, long days, no benefits, no safety, discrimination in hiring/firing/promotions, that's fine, move to China.

@Anonymous: Indeed, i stopped taking seriously #politics long time ago, everytime i come here is the ame shit (Opinions = facts, trolls, uninformed people discussing serious topics, etc)

@Anonymous: >Somebody disagrees with you.
>"willfully ignorant teenagers who has never worked a day in their lives"

Classy.

@Anonymous: Man, you don't go on #politics much. This place is a cesspool of young republicans and kissing the ass of the upper class.

@Anonymous: Union businesses keep failing and unionization rates are low. All the low skilled jobs are getting shipped places with less regulation. Making labor laws tighter won't exacerbate the problem, that's for sure.

@Anonymous: A large part of the current unemployment problem can be explained by the 40% hike in the minimum wage by the democrats once they could do whatever they wanted.

@Anonymous: >Implying that unemployment in every sector has anything to do with minimum wage
>Implying the democrats could do whatever they wanted with a republican majority in congress
>Implying you understand politics and economics

@Anonymous: 0/10

Ah, yes - good ole' LeftyCartoons:

> Comic about how government has to protect you from yourself
> Comic about whining special interest groups
> Then
> Comic about government messing up the economy with a bailout
> Comic about government being in the pocket of special interest groups

Good job LeftyCartoons, you have no idea what your own agenda is.

@Anonymous: The highest unemployment was among the young and uneducated.

The zero lower bound also makes the 40% hike in the minimum wage more relevant.

The hikes happened in 2009 (you have a short memory).

If the economy were growing, minimum wage hikes wouldn't be a problem.

I'm not saying minimum wage hikes tanked the economy. But because the economy tanked, the hikes exacerbated AD-based unemployment for low skill jobs.

http://www.themoneyillusion.com/?p=12785
http://modeledbehavior.com/2011/05/09/higher-wages-arent-free-and-why-environmentalists-should-be-the-defenders-of-efficiency/
http://www.themoneyillusion.com/?p=9652

@DashDeschain: sounds about right

@Anonymous: It's funny because I'm not even part of the conversation, I just noticed you were being silly.
Thanks for the troll stickers though!

@Anonymous: http://www.themoneyillusion.com/?p=13877
This, for example, I would interprate as blaming the combination of monetary policy, minimum wage hikes and NGDP stagnation as the cause of unemployment (among unskilled workers).

@Anonymous: Yeah, they (Australians) have an unemployment of 5.2%, which isn't bad, but they also have the growth rate of a developing country, not the stagnation of the U.S. If we had NGDP targeting, we would be fine, but our inflation targets mean the hikes cause unemployment.

http://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&met_y=ny_gdp_mktp_cd&idim=country:AUS&dl=en&hl=en&q=australia+gdp
http://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=ltjib1m1uf3pf_&ctype=l&met_y=regdispunemp_g1c&hl=en&dl=en#!ctype=l&strail=false&bcs=d&nselm=h&met_y=unemplrt_t1&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=country_group&idim=country_group:oecd:non-oecd&idim=country:AUS&ifdim=country_group&hl=en_US&dl=en

@Anonymous: You know who was calling for reducing the minimum wage for the youth (and letting them work younger)? Republicans. You know who said it would be the end of the world? Democrats.

That's the Australian system you linked to.

@Anonymous: I'm going to pull a Milton Friedman and say a negative income tax is better for the poor than an increase in the minimum wage.

@Anonymous: >hurr anybudy who doeznt agree wit me iz a troll XD

@Anonymous: I don't think you go to #politics much... or even outside of your own home.

And this is why I'm glad I don't live in America. This thread reads like a bunch of poorly informed spoiled teenagers.

@Anonymous: Basically everybody in this thread who complains about "those damn liberals" is probably american. The rest of the developed world doesn't use this line, and america has its two party system and partisan media to blame.