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@supermeerkat: Uh ... I'm a hardcore Republican/Libertarian who attends tea parties and listens to Glenn Beck (no, I'm not trolling, I really am) and I love this ... because it's true. Do your own research, learn the truth for yourself ... the media -- ANY media -- will pull you into their agenda if you don't. And yes, that includes my favorite media personalities as well.
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@Anonymous: >I'm a hardcore Republican/Libertarian who attends tea parties and listens to Glenn Beck (no, I'm not trolling, I really am)
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@supermeerkat: Why don't Republican's like this? Because "Who is a more sympathetic character?" does not drive good policy. Creating simplistic categories (oppressors, oppressed) doesn't help debate but makes it impossible to have a rational dialogue. If presenting both sides of the story becomes "Helping the oppressors" or "being on the side of the oppressors" then there's no room for disagreement and debate to move you towards a better understanding of the issue.
By saying "Republicans," by the way, puts this into political terms in which this formulation is worse than useless. Practically, I think it's important to get a sense of who the underdog is, and it's fundamentally American to root for the underdog. I don't think people "love" oppressors or "hate" the oppressed, but people say that when someone says, "I don't support Occupy Wall Street." You're with the 99% or you're with the 1%! The oppressed, or the oppressors. Do Republicans feel sympathy for people who can't get jobs? For the median income stagnation? Do they want everyone to be able to, if they wish, get a College education? Sure. That's sentiment, not policy.5 -
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@Anonymous: Dude ... I'm sure there are some middle-aged white males in the USA who have a very difficult life. I know I pass at least 3 of them on my walk to work every day. I'm also sure that there are some middle-aged black males in the USA who have a very difficult life. Some middle-aged Asian males probably also have a hard time. You know what? I bet there are some middle-aged hispanic females who have a difficult life.
Our society will never get past prejudice until we can stop thinking in victim/oppressor mentalities. Sometimes people will do hateful things -- against blacks, whites, gays, straights, religious, non-religious, etc -- but we all need to realize that such things are done by individuals, not entire groups of people. And please ... find me a group that is actively attempting to oppress you. It's just not there.2 -
@supermeerkat: Republican here. I Monocled it. I disagree with X on some things, but he is right about this, and I admire his stance on education that if the state fails to (or chooses not to educate your children) you MUST work as a community to educate your own children.
I may not agree with his views that we must live separate, but he is a fascinating man and A Homemade Education was a thrilling read.
The best way I can explain him is King was Professor X trying to get us to live in peace, and X was Magneto who believed we could never get along and must be separate and govern ourselves separately.
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@supermeerkat: Some of the smartest people I know are Republicans.
Some of the dumbest people I know are Republicans.
Some of the smartest people I know are Democrats.
Some of the dumbest people I know are Democrats.
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@Anonymous: > find me a group that is actively attempting to oppress you. It's just not there.
Easy. I'm Jewish. The KKK and Hamas are both actively attempting to oppress me (or kill me) b/c I'm Jewish.
I'm not saying us Jews are soooo discriminated against, I'm just trying to point out that there still are many groups working to oppress and/or kill off groups of people based on race, religion, sexual orientation, etc. Keep in mind that segregation was still government sponsored in America about 50 years ago. Hell in the 80's they were still doing forced sterilization on Native Americans as part of some Eugenics crap.
Sauce:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas_Charter#Anti-Semitism_claims
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_segregation_in_the_United_States
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_sterilization#United_States
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics_in_the_United_States
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@Anonymous: Alright, I'll concede your point. Yes, there are hate-groups out there, especially if you happen to be Jewish. For some reason, the world loves hating the Jews.
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@Anonymous: The end of another era of musical culture generated by black people.
I hope their next hit is better than rap.
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@Anonymous: Well hopefully it will lead to people taking a little more pride in their spelling and grammar.
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@Anonymous: God i hope you're trolling. I call you a grammar nazi because you are commenting on an image board about spelling mistakes meanwhile a large part of the image board actually uses that on purpose in order to make a point or a joke. This isn't a scientific paper or something important it's a fucking image board you tool.
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@Anonymous: You can spell perfectly and still be as dumb as a brick. i would rather see someone who cant spell, or someone who uses grammer wrong, say an original thought that changes the way i think and see the world, than see a thousand people who can spell perfectly who have nothing worthwhile to say.
gramar nazis usually appear as a last ditch attempt to discredit the winning side of an argument. i think there bad reputation is deserved because of that. i do think the pro ignorance pov promoted in popular culture for the past 4 decades is disgusting.
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There are two ends to the Greek sovereign debt problem. They pay out too much and they don't enforce their own tax laws. Modest adjustments to both practices would straighten things out, but they lack the political will to hire tax collectors that are willing to do their jobs.
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@Anonymous: Taxation is how you pay for maintenance and improvement of the commons. lrn2 social contract.
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@burrowowl: The issue, like you said, is really about too many costs with too little income. There are two responses to such a situation:
a) tax the livelihood out of the economy with increasingly higher rates as commerce decreases further and further with each addition of taxation.
b) cut the number of services provided by the government.
Yes, societies have social contracts and need to engage in various public works that -- though they harm the private economy by taking money out of it -- are worthwhile. Things like roads and firemen come to mind.
However, the more government encroaches on the money meant for private industry, the less individuals can support themselves AND the more they come to expect more for less (ie, "free" healthcare). Politicians want to be re-elected and like offering such candy ... so it becomes a heavily reinforced issue until ... like Greece ... things finally collapse.
It's not JP Morgan's fault. It's not the fault of Goldman Sachs. It's the fault of the people who thought they could get stuff for "free" and of the government who promised to give out "candy" even while knowing what the books looked like.
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@Anonymous: I think you've confused me with the folks that are blaming banks here. Greece may well have been cheated by large banks, but "don't get cheated any more" isn't a useful suggestion for how their current situation should be remedied going forward.
Taxing citizens to pay for roads and other shared infrastructure doesn't harm business, as those businesses rely on the shared infrastructure to facilitate their commerce.
In Greece one large part of the problem is a particularly rampant culture of tax fraud on the part of its citizenry and endemic passivity among the government workers responsible for tax collection. I'm not suggesting that Greece raise its taxes, I'm recommending that Greece collect its taxes in addition to cutting back its expenditures.
A bad analogy here would be if you are having problems making ends meet at home, so you cut back on entertainment, clothing, and food. You find a cheaper place to rent. Meanwhile you've only been cashing 2/3rds of your paychecks. Which makes you more of a dumbshit, your clothing budget or those uncashed checks gathering dust?2 -
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@burrowowl: yeah, and there's supposed to be an interest on paid on every dollar bill too but you don't seem to want to talk about that shit either. if that's what the federal reserve expects, then how will we ever get out of debt? yeah, what?





