@Anonymous: Big place Europe. Can you be a little more vague?

@Anonymous: Can you name one that forbids it?
I mainly know Western Europe places like France and Germany who allow it.

Just pointing out the "Not America" aspect of your post. Europe is a continent, not a country. I neither know nor care about Family Law.

@Anonymous: yes and arabia is a peninsula but not a single country in it forbids cousin marrying.

Europe has had legal cousin marrying since the Roman era, it's been illegal once or twice in protestant countries but it never lasts long.

@Anonymous: Rick Perry is the most vile of homophobic twats and if Americans vote for him that just shows how prejudiced your country still is

@Anonymous: I'll give you that -- I do think criminalizing homosexual acts is wrong. I should have included that in my initial post. Apologies.

@Anonymous: That's cool, and with the abstinence thing in Perry's book fair enough that is his personal opinion, the thing I most objected to is the comparison of homosexuality to alcoholism as alcoholism is effectively a mental illness that can be worked through with therapy, whereas homosexuality is genetic and natural.

@Anonymous: my bad wrong wording

@Anonymous: alcoholism is genetic and natural as well.

you never stop being an alcoholic you just learn to abstain.

All "sins" come from natural desires adultery is your desire to reproduce, theft is your desire cause you want something.

The debate is whether or not you should abstain.

I say it's like being kosher. If your religion commands it do it, if not don't.

@Anonymous: if you can be addicted to porn you can be addicted to sex

@Anonymous: >implying all gays are sex addicts

@Anonymous: Or if you're a woman being raped and don't scream loud enough for someone to hear it, it's considered consensual and the "whore" must be stoned to death also.

@Anonymous: he'd make more of a difference then Obama ever could.

@Anonymous: never said that. I was rebutting his "you can't be addicted to gay sex"

@Anonymous: Doesn't mean it will be by much.. Or that it will be a "good" difference

@Anonymous: oh my god i laughed so fucking hard

@Anonymous: he didn't say that he said "being gay" which must mean just being homosexual in general and not actually talking about sex,

@Anonymous: mfw "you never stop being an alcoholic you just learn to abstain." I used to be an alcoholic, people who abstain and have to stay cold turkey all the time haven't beaten their addiction, those of us who used to drink the equivalent 3 70cl bottles of rum a day but can now drink socially without relapsing are those who have truly beaten addiction and have stopped being alcoholics. You clearly do not understand addiction.

@Anonymous: I just drink socially on occasion. I sometimes think about those that are struggling & try to help if I can.

That last part lost me, but honestly, an addiction is for life because you have to fight to keep ourself out of the habit.

@Anonymous: and Discipline can prevent you from falling back in.
Just cause you desire something and crave it doesn't mean you gotta do it. Have self control.

@Anonymous: You're lying to yourself.

@Anonymous: About what dearest?

@Anonymous: they need discipline. millions QUIT every year. You can't just give up cause your body craves it.

@Anonymous: what will the psychiatrist tell you to do? He'll tell you you need to stop it. You may get encouragement but there is no magic switch or drug that will stop your desire. You need to overcome your desire.

@Anonymous: Millions never drink or do drugs in the first place.

Go talk to a doctor. Or read the statistics.

As you get older, people around you will die.

And you may begin to understand that you are wrong.

@Anonymous: I've been around addicts, I've been addicted to things to. know people who HAVE quit. How did they do it? They controlled themselves and held their desire at bay.

@Anonymous: How am I wrong? Are you saying an addict can never quit what he desires?
If he can quit how? I understand the desire never goes away but that doesn't man you can't overcome it.

@Anonymous: You're wrong that it's simply a matter of willpower to "quit" and then you are cured.

It takes a LIFETIME of work to fight compulsion. As in EVERY DAY.

The vast majority of people will have more than one relapse. With opiates, fatal overdose is common during a relapse. With alcoholics, a DUI is common during relapse.

As far as "what I'm saying," it doesn't really matter, for you don't seem to be comprehending it.

@Anonymous: I'm seeing a lot of excuses here. That's like saying that slam-dunking a basketball isn't just a matter of jumping high enough to place the ball in the basket without throwing it. Not everybody can jump that high, and many people can't control their own behavior. That doesn't excuse their behavior, it just makes them pathetic.

No matter who you're voting for, you're voting for the wrong person.