@Anonymous: LAWL. omfg tell that to Keshas autotuner

@hepcat1of1: I don't know how to tell that to that, hepC.

@Anonymous: Like this:

"Hey autotuner, Kesha doesn't need you anymore. Now she's got "talent".
Then sit back and laugh as the autotuner goes and cries in the corner, while Kesha rakes in the billions based solely on her own musical abilities.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

@hepcat1of1: Maybe it is an age thing or a country music thing. I can recognize Ke$ha but I haven't heard enough Taylor Swift to be able to recognize one of her songs. I just listen to rock or rap though.

@Anonymous: Listen, I'm 38 years old and I am NO fan of country music. I do not listen to rap but rock is my scene. I am a fan of everything between Opeth and Black Sabbath, to Simon and Garfunkle and Frente. One thing I can tell you with absolute certainty. Taylor Swift could outsing Kesha even if she were on vicadin and percocet after being punched in the neck.

@hepcat1of1: I am sure you know way more about music. 38 years old? I am a bit younger, lol.

@Anonymous: Old people just don't understand new music.

@hepcat1of1: old people just don't get it

@Anonymous: at least old people got to see/hear the best music ever devised.

@Anonymous: like rag time?

@Anonymous: The best music EVER will come out in 2013 when they come out with an better speaker.

Young people just don't understand that they don't know everything.

beiber is the best

if your over 28 your fucking dumb

@Anonymous: clearly missing the point.

the point is my dick in your ear

@hepcat1of1: As a young person, I know music tastes are highly dependent on social circle (which includes age, ethnicity, language, etc). Ever music executive knows that & almost everyone else knows that too.

new music sucks.

@Anonymous: middle music sucks

@Anonymous: as a person i know the best music in the world, its the best for everyone. your just old man, don't get it

BOTDF rox!

I must be missing something as well. I guess i missed the day they decided having a computer create your music track instead of playing instruments was quality music. I must have missed the day everyone decided it was acceptable to have an autotuner sing for you since all you really need to make money in the music business was image. Thank God I missed all that, cause I ain't buyin.

Old music versus new music is a losing argument. Remember on Back to the Future, when he goes back in time and plays new music & everyone loves it?

@Anonymous: because it was from the golden age.

@hepcat1of1: I was with you until that point. I think good music can be made from a computer or from instruments. Both are just tools. :/

@hepcat1of1: well back in your day when y'all sang into the can and played the banjo. shit has changed since then, mainly internet porn

@Anonymous: Remember when it sounded like the music they all already listened to and they loved it, but then when he got too modern they all dropped dead silent and looked at him like he was a toolshed? Yeah, i remember that too

Computers to music is like computers to drawing. You can spend a week & draw a pic of someone very lifelike, or you can make amazing art with a computer quickly. Tech can, but doesn't always, help art.

@Anonymous: There's only one problem with your argument. A computer will keep time signature and tone for you. Musicians who play instruments have to keep their own time signature and use their ability to play to keep from going flat or sharp.

@Anonymous: since when was it easier to make a work of art on a computer than of a drawing? just because it reduces time DOES NOT make it better.

@Anonymous: Since they created Photoshop & other similar programs. That made it MUCH easier.

whats photoshoppe?

@Anonymous: no shit sherlock. those programs are absolutely nothing like actual drawings or paintings and hardly compare.

@hepcat1of1: I'll take all the stickers you wanna give. Although I don't see where your confusion is. This really is an inarguable issue.

14 year old has different taste in music than 38 year old. No news there.

yeah i think big band was popular when you could shake it

@Anonymous: >it takes 2 decades to ruin the music industry

napster

Music industry is hurting financially because anyone can make killer songs. I DJ & have some killer tunes made.

@Anonymous: because DJ'ing means killer tunes.

i can't wait until all anyone knows how to do is DJ and then i can break out a guitar and get hookers and blow.

i have dj hero

Actually it's closer to your mid-twenties, though I've been listening heavily to music since I was 10. Also, all the music I listened to when I was younger sucked. Now I listen to music that is difficult and requires effort and work to get into. These bands are superior, however no one will ever know, because it's music for musicians. There are a lot of variables that go into making music for an audience, but the real secret is that once your band has been around for about 10 years all the kids in school don't remember a time before you existed and thus you have control, and thus you are popular. Alternately, find someone with money to pump into your publicity machine. Double alternately, wear a meat dress.

It's funny because I argued with you about women too. lol. I made a post that some women are hot online but my woman looks crappy. lol

@Anonymous: You know, quality music exists today, it just doesn't come from the likes of Kesha. 14 year olds are perfectly welcome to have differing tastes than a 38 year old. Just don't use that as an excuse to let your ears be contaminated by trendy no talent hacks. If you want to listen to some modern music that is worth listening to, Kesha ISN'T it. It's out there. Use your new-fangled innarwebz and

you know really black are to blame

wtf man?

@Anonymous: "music for musicians"

please just shut the fuck up, and get the fuck out. the level of stupidity emanating from your post is beyond measure.

@hepcat1of1: oops, i didn't need that "and" on the end. it's superfluous.

you done? probably...you are old as shit

@Anonymous: Nah, I can go all day. Just ask your mom.

ZING!!!

@Anonymous: It's like being a gourmand. I couldn't tell you the difference in taste between salt from the ground and salt from the ocean, but there are people that can. You probably couldn't come up with a counter melody to any song you hear, but I can.

@Anonymous: i play by ear dipshit. try me.

yeah hooker

@Anonymous: Sounds like you don't actually understand the technicalities of music then. Bummer.

This is the best Internet dick-measuring contest I have ever seen.

@Anonymous: i understand completely. however, i'm not going to fall second string to you by making a harmony. sit down, shut the fuck up, and follow along while i shred some guitar douchebag.

oh bummer, i think the only thing that matters is buying shit and selling shit

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@Anonymous: Oh, a guitarist. That explains a lot.

Also, I'm pretty sure the entire planet is dwarfed in comparison to my dick.

but i rub my dick all over a drum kit

@Anonymous: I'm down with drummers.

@Anonymous: Funniest movie EVAR!

well y'all this is my last bottle of wine, so i need to go

@Anonymous: i play three different instruments.

i'm probably replying to some kid that thinks he's a DJ.

@Anonymous: Dj-Hero2 game+turntable box set selling for 20 bucks at Big Lots.

Just thought some people may want to know.

@Anonymous: But you also play guitar, and I'm probably guessing it's your primary instrument. As a former member of several bands, please turn your amp down. Not everyone needs to suck your dick all the time.

I'm not really bitching at you, just every guitarist I've ever met. I hope you're smarter than that. So what do you play? I play Trumpet, Piano, Keyboard, Tuba and French Horn. I'm tired of arguing. Music Chat Time Go!

@Anonymous: practice amp only goes so loud as it's only a 15watt tube. plenty loud to knock some heads off. if you're recording a mix, leveling is paramount unless you're new.

started on bass 9 years ago. piano/synth, harmonica, and guitar. 6 string was the most recent thing i've picked up. no real reason it put it down.

@Anonymous: I've never been able to get into guitar. I've never wanted my dainty hands to be tainted with callouses. I'm way masculine like that. I'm probably going to suck it up though and eventually learn. I play lead, due mostly to my fondness for singing and my history with the trumpet, and a lot of people get confused when you play lead synth.

I just need to find some industrial band so I have fun with that part of it. If anyone listened to ska, or was ever interested in making upbeat, but complex ska, I'd get back into that, but ska hasn't been cool since before I played ska.

I'll never get what I want from a group of musicians unless I write it all out first, and I also need to suck it up and get on that. I lost my audio card when I upgraded to Windows 7 and havn't been able to mix anything in almost a year. It's depressing. I'm a musician without a home. I mean, noodling on the synth is fun, but it's not making music.

Blah Blah Blah, okay, I'm done.

video killed the radio star

well that was nice

@Anonymous: This post reminds me of taking guitar as a kid. I was really into Metallica, my dad said he would teach me how to play once I save up for a guitar. The first song he taught me was Master of Puppets since I thought it was a really hardcore song on a hardcore instrument. Then after learning it, all the excitement was gone. There is nothing hardcore about moving a pinky from one string to another sting & thinking you are a boss. I switched to drums after that. I love all music, Kesha included, but I prefer instruments that get your whole body working, like drums, or complex like producing on a computer.

@Anonymous: you apparently didn't play guitar long enough for it to become a "whole body" thing. during the summer months, i would sweat my ass off as if i had just jogged a few miles while just standing in place playing guitar.

i also don't see how using a computer uses the whole body, at all.

@Anonymous: I still have a guitar and a base but still don't see how playing it is as intense as jogging. Although computers don't use the whole body, like in my earlier comment, I like the complexity of computers. I honestly can produce songs better than records companies could in the 80s just with my laptop & turntables.

Anyone who thinks that Lady Gaga has talent is batshit stupid and fallen victim to her well played abuse of the plight of homesexuals for monetary gain, furthermore she spawns a following of anti-free speech retards who can't take criticism in any form and believe their ill-conceived notions are somehow better than everyone else's. Also before you start your drivel I am an atheist and pro gay marriage.

So, homo-hate aside, if you're hating on ragtime you have serious problems. Watch as Tom Brier takes this simple score and expands on it to places you will never be able to go.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPa4i-ASpqs

@Anonymous: She has a great singing voice.
Of course, the debate as to whether a good voice is a talent or just something you're born with is something else entirely.

Oh and she can play piano well and as far as I can tell she's a good songwriter (though granted, other people probably write with her/write a lot of her songs).

So yeh, she has talent. You ignint, dawg.

@Anonymous: The point I'm trying to get across is that if you listen to music I hate, you are a moron.

@Anonymous: She was a song writer for popular acts before she created Lady Gaga. Just use google or wikipedia

@Anonymous: I was aware of that, I think, but I don't really know who or what songs, or if she gets the sole credit for any of them, so it seemed improper of me to use that to claim she was a good songwriter.

Still, fuck it, writing any successful song is a talent. I know I couldn't do it.

@Anonymous: 'by are music'
stopped reading there...

I'd still hit it.

@Anonymous: Skrillex has fans?

I FUCKING LOVE KE$HA!!!