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@Anonymous: My point is L Torvalds made Linux copying UNIX, but Ritchie wrote UNIX, not Linux
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No one got my reference to him here:
http://canv.as/p/esuee/reply/691008
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@Anonymous: >implying you're not trolling
>IMPLYING HIM AND JOBS ARE EVEN IN THE SAME BALLPARK
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@Schefar: You make the mistake I've seen so much lately in all the discussion of Steve Jobs of thinking innovation means invention. It doesn't. Look it up. Steve Jobs pretty much excelled at innovation, though he was not at all an inventor. Sorry to get all grammar Nazi, but seeing this error repeated soooo many times over the past few weeks has really been hitting my berserk button.
At any rate, I was much more of a Ritchie fan than a Jobs fan, as I feel Ritchie's contributions were much more fundamental and important to the computing world than Jobs'. I am sad that Ritchie's death has gotten such little attention while Jobs got an absurd amount of attention. So I salute the effort to spread the word about Ritchie, which in the end is far more important than a minor grammatical error, thanks for that.32 -
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@Anonymous: nonono I meant the part where you assumed I was an uber-troll and also rated how well you thought I trolled people
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@Anonymous: How so? iOS and the Mac OS are derivatives of UNIX and the Android OS is Linux.
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@nebetsu: Although it isn't derived from the UNIX source code, Linux is a copy of UNIX. If you read about the origins of Linux, that is what Linus Torvalds was trying to do, create a free version of UNIX that would run on cheap desktop hardware. It uses the GNU tools for most of it's command line functionality, which was created by Richard Stallman to create free and open source copies of all the commands that are on commercial UNIX systems.
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@djbitblit: I know that. Maybe "derivative" was a poor choice of wording there. Point being: Everyone's all upset about Steve Jobs' death, but when the guy who laid the foundation for all of Jobs' current products dies, no one cares.
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@nebetsu: Agreed. Dennis Ritchie is a hacking demigod. Like all true hackers he made his contributions to the world for the sake of contributing, not to make money. Only nerds will be upset. What Jobs did was make UNIX accessible to the masses. The masses will be upset.
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@Anonymous: I'm not christian. Besides, wasn't it Jobs that killed the Newton?
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@Anonymous: What was meant as an insult was probably taken as a compliment unless OP bothers to read the whole of this thread
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@Anonymous: Wtf? Why do you expect someone to write this up for you? Were you mistreated as a child?
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@djbitblit: I had one of these, years after they were actually popular. Battery was shit, but i never realized that it was a mac until right now.
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Steve Jobs was a business manager who stole ideas and branded them under the iLogo mantra. Besides creating calligraphy for the prototypes of Mac, he made no tangible contributions to technology. As CEO, he simply recruited talented artists and engineers to create products that he could only imagine. He makes no pretext about his actions, having once said, "We have always been shameless about stealing great ideas."
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