Only thing that pissed me off is Mark saying two identities is a lack of integrity. What does he know about integrity? He recently tried to unleash a smear campaign against Google.

I have several different active usernames online. (Four of which I use daily)

None of my internet friends know my real name and none of my real friends know my usernames.

I've completely lost track of how many different e-mails I have/had.

I have a facebook account but it doesn't have a profile picture, is extremely strict on privacy and I have never even posted a "status update".

Anonymity is very important to me.

"Facebook vs 4chan" or "Zuckerberg vs Moot" or "Identity vs Anonymity" are all hilarious false dichotomies.

@Anonymous: confirmed for career criminal

@alphagirl: I was hoping that would open up the conversation, not shut it down.

I think a model of "fluid identity" is a much more interesting. Think of identity as a sliding scale between full real identity and anonymity. Sometimes I want a pseudonym (forum login name, game nickname, AIM screenname) which makes me more apt to talk to strangers but less likely to build longterm reputation.

@anonymous (When facebook meets 4chan on facebook) Yikes! There's a really violent threat to Moot up there right now.

@timothy: I think that "fluid identity" is much more representative of real life anyway. Sometimes you're anonymous (casual conversation with a store clerk; anonymous nice gesture), other times you're not, which is life- not a lack of integrity.

Also, maybe I am preaching to the choir here ITT, but I will give my last dollar to anyone who can show me someone who is exactly the same person in every context of their life (family, professional, romantic relationships). Not that people are intentionally disingenuous (although some are), but there are things that I say to friends that I would never say to my parents for obvious reasons; if I talked about work (disaster research) to my friends all the time they would want to kill themselves, so I don't do that, etc. I think this naturally extends to online activities as well, because online activity is becoming more and more integrated into our day-to-day lives all the time. Eventually, we'll all be walking around with tiny internet-accessible devices in our pockets every minute of the day. Oh wait...

So Mark Zuckerberg asking us all to be the same person all the time online when we aren't even that in real life is kind of hilariously naive, IMO.

tl;dr: DON'T JUDGE ME, MARK ZUCKERBERG!

What anonymity gives you is freedom to be your self without having to worry about reputation. People who basically just act like dicks when anonymous are basically just dicks, and I think anyone who acts differently anonymously is putting on a front in real life.
The Zuckerberg approach is quite good for making sure everyone behaves themselves (like santa) but you don't get this free environment we have here. Since becoming involved in anonymous communities, I've become much more open IRL, caring less about people's opinions of me and more about interacting and having fun.
The balance on canv.as (with a persistent identity you can choose to use or not) works really well if you ask me. As we seem to be getting all the benefits without the costs which are so evident on 4chan.

@refractor: That's a cute idea until people get modded for calling someone a 'dick,' which just happened to me, or whatever other reason people feel like flagging your content for that day. Meanwhile i have seen no less than 9000 erect nipples on this site that is supposedly safe for work.

Psh. BS. There is far worse stuff on here than a girl in a bathing suit. What a joke.

@Blackout: Heh ugly was the point! And that didn't violate the group rules as the group rules either don't make sense or attempt to violate the CoC

#girls: YOU WILL PUT A TOOTHBRUSH AND DO THE BRUSHIE BRUSHIE NOW

What NEEDS to happen is that moderator actions need to be made public for all users to see at the very least. Preferably it should be the users who decide via voting what is and isn't acceptable for the given area or group with only the most grievous of infractions being delt with by the mods.

Never had those problems myself, but then I only post OC and never girls.
Try posting decent content and see if that works.

Shit, I'm wasting all my #1s in this thread...

@dmauro: can you give us a hint as to what part of the CoC it actually violated? Most of here want to play by the rules, but we can't ever seem to figure out what the hell they are.

From our perspective, it looks like someone just got a bug up their butt. We're trying to be patient and work with this site, we know this is beta and shit is gonna be wonky, but there is a serious problem with moderation and you guys ignoring that fact is not helping the issue.

@Anonymous: I hate to be the 'rules' guy, but I recall that you are allowed to swear on the site, but not to insult other users, so while it's up for debate as to whether that's a good rule, it is at least a rule.
The erect nipples could easily be dealt with by introducing a nsfw section, which can be hidden when necessary. That way people could post actual porn and you wouldn't have to see it in front of your boss, instead of everyone seeing how much they can get away with all the time.

@refractor: http://canv.as/code_of_conduct

That's a real bitch-fucking-shit set of rules, and according to the CoC, I can insult the rulebook, just not the person who wrote it.

Also, the words "whore" and "fag" are banned, probably to limit the number of angry ragers from /b/ who worked their way over to canv.as.

Did the person who posted the mod in the bikini use any of said choice words?

That might be a reason. Either that, or the mod was simply offended or felt 'harassed' by someone posting a picture that they found ON THE INTERNET.

@refractor: Its not a sharp and narrow line, but it is easily seen.

@Anonymous: "the mod was simply offended or felt 'harassed' by someone posting a picture that they found ON THE INTERNET."


Yep. That.

There was nothing suggestive about that picture, in fact it was at least 1,000 times less suggestive than most girls posted on Canv.as....

In my professional experience, you can't expect community managers and employees to enforce a poorly written and executed code of conduct. In general, these are non-skilled people with low-level critical thinking skills, and any interpretation made can be highly inconsistent and just furthers resentment among the community in general. I'm not saying this is the case here for sure, cause i don't work for canv.as, but i can tell you that in my current job, and in previous jobs that i have had, this is usually the case.

The bright and creative people are usually too busy actually making something to be bothered with policing the community through moderation.

ITT: People who got their feelings hurt by a canv.as moderator.

what butthurt loser keeps downvoting posts in this conversation?

@Blackout: I would guess the same type of people that are really upset about the whole rapture thing not happening.